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By: Jon Woodward, ctvbc.ca

Date: Thursday Mar. 3, 2011 6:03 PM PT

The B.C. Lottery Corporation and related casinos are facing a number of new lawsuits from gambling addicts who claim they signed up to be kept out of casinos, but were instead allowed in to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars.

One gambler felt so hopeless that she could not depend on BCLC's self-exclusion program that she tried to commit suicide and ended up lying face-up in a river, one of the suits claims.

"Up to this point, she had never been refused entry to or prevented from gambling," reads the notice of claim from Carol Barton.

"The Plaintiff left like a failure and completely hopeless. She drove herself to a secluded spot out of town and drank an overdose of pills, in an attempt to commit suicide. She awoke in the early morning hours, with her head propped up between two rocks while lying in a river," the document reads.

The four lawsuits take aim at the self-exclusion program, which is one of the main tenets of the crown corporation's protection for problem gamblers. In the program, gambling addicts declare they have a problem and are told they will be kept out.

But the gamblers claim they were only stopped or removed on rare occasions. They claim the casinos didn't live up to their promise to help their addiction and should pay back the money made from the plaintiffs. The total claims exceed $400,000.

The suits come when BCLC is backing a major expansion of gambling in downtown Vancouver at BC Place, and arguing social costs will be minimal.

BCLC President Michael Graydon told CTV News that under the program it's up to the gamblers to take the responsibility to stay away from the casinos.

"It's a voluntary program and that's made clear at the time of signup," he said.

Gambling expert Colin Campbell says casinos have yet to recognize the research that shows an addiction to gambling is as real as addiction to drugs.

Campbell believes there's a good reason BCLC and its casinos aren't kicking problem gamblers out -- they tend to be the casino's best customers.

"They'll turn a blind eye because those players are paying their paycheck," Campbell said.

The suits touch on a similar problem to what CTV News identified in a hidden-camera investigation last summer. We watched an excluded gambler walk in and out of casino after casino without being stopped.

B.C.'s minister responsible for gambling ordered a review and the Lottery Corporation promised to fix the program within a year.

Graydon said this week the company has made changes including enhancing facial recognition software technology and adjusting the entrances so that people are herded in a way that helps the facial recognition technology work.

The company says it has kicked out more than 8,000 people on the self-exclusion program in 2010. They don't keep statistics on the number of people allowed in the casinos despite the program.

BCLC has not filed a notice of defense in any of the new suits.

In Barton's suit against BCLC, Goldwing Investments, Enterprise Entertainment, and Gateway Casinos and Entertainment Inc., she claims she was introduced to gambling in Las Vegas, but didn't start playing the slots in Lake City Kamloops until 1999.

She claims she signed up to the self-exclusion program four different times, was promised she would be kept out of the casino, and yet she received no different treatment from the casino except when she or a friend explicitly asked to be told to leave.

In 2005 she tried to kill herself with an overdose of pills, the suit says. She was later admitted to hospital under the Mental Health Act, and then discharged. Within three weeks she was back at the casino.

Barton claims she lost $200,000 during the periods she had signed up for the self-exclusion program.

Marie Martin is suing BCLC, Great Canadian Gaming Corporation and Gateway Casinos and Entertainment Inc. She claims she signed up for the self-exclusion program at the River Rock Casino in 2005.

"For the following year the Plaintiff consistently continued to enter and gamble at the River Rock and/or the Grand Villa without ever being questioned, stopped, or turned away," her lawsuit reads.

"As a result of the defendant's failure to properly enforce the program, the plaintiff has suffered significant financial loss," the lawsuit reads. Martin asks for damages but does not specify an amount.

James Stanworth is suing British Columbia Lottery Corporation, Great Canadian Casinos Inc., and Gateway Casinos and Entertainment Inc. He claims he gambled at Boulevard Casino, Starlight Casino and Grand Villa with his disposable income, then his credit card, and then his RRSPs.

"The plaintiff felt such emotion surrounding gambling that he began to lose his ability to control the frequency of his gambling and the amount he gambled," the lawsuit reads.

In May 2007, he signed up to the program and the suit claims he was told employees would keep him out. When he returned three months later, the suit claims no one ordered him out at all.

Stanworth claims he lost $171,000 during the period he was on the self-exclusion program.

Another lawsuit claims a woman lost $38,100 through gambling at the River Rock casino after signing up to the self-exclusion program.

She attempted suicide in July 2011, and was admitted to hospital, and then enrolled in a treatment centre.

The woman is suing BCLC and Great Canadian Casinos Inc.

The gamblers are represented by two lawyers, Jim Hanson and Laird Cruikshank.

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Bill Emery
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These four should be ashamed of themselves and their lawyers as well. Is anyone nowadays even responsible for their own actions? I'm sick and tired of all these people claiming don't build this casino because I won't be able to stop myself from pissing away my life. Why not grow up and blame only yourself for having no backbone to make the right choices. Maybe Darwin awards should be given to this weak end of the gene pool. I mean, how good a parent could they make if they can't even manage their own lives by making sound decisions? Boo hoo hoo. SHUT UP ALREADY and grow up. YOU are the problem not the casino or the Lottery kiosk. I don’t want your poor choices affecting my way of life and limiting my choices because I am able to make the right decisions. It’s time to stop idiot proofing the world and get rid of the “Lowest Common Denominator” rule by design.


Who Said That
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These four need to get a life and accept responsibility for their own downfall.


WB
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Why should the casino staff be responsible for the behavior of these people? That just doesn't make sense. We've become a society that doesn't accept responsibility for our own actions and that's just wrong. What are we teaching our young people? That it's okay to sue someone else because they got themselves into trouble by not wanting to deal with their addictions?


Stefano
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Sad stories...We shouldn't make gambling so accessible in BC, Having casino right in downtown is like robbing peoples money in day light.I understand some people argue that one can decide whether to go or not, but some people get hooked and addicted an have no choice when gambling is so accessible...


Jon
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The problem here is that the casino said it would keep them out and didn't. These people were asking for help with there problem and being told they would. In the end they were not. They were trying to take some responsibility for there actions, told they would be helped, but the help never followed through.


Sean Smith
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You can be sure that NONE of these 4 ,that are suing BCLC, signed up for the free gambling addiciton councelling that is offered at the time of signing up for the VSE. The document is read to them, line by line. They do not leave until they have confirmed that they understand things like "you don't get to keep your winnings if you manage to sneak in and play". Hundreds of people walk through the doors of a casino in a day. If they KNOWINGLY enter a facility, they are doing so KNOWING that they might get caught.Shame on CTV for skimming over the part where these problem gamblers fail to take the responsiblity for their action and fail to take the FREE help that is offered to them.


Lee
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How exactly is an gambling addicted subculture ever supposed to be deterred from their vice if they win a law suit against the casino. I hope the courts throw this out. Most ridiculous.


shawn
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People should be resposible for their actions. Today people blame society rather than themelves. In the restaurant business if your patron drinks and drives and kills someone the family sues the restaurant. WHY? People loose money in a casino and they sue the casino?


mre2me
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No Your Limits Play With in it no excuses!!


Paul in BC
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I think they should offer these people a buy out. They're just going run to the casino and blow it all again.


Tomax48
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These really are four losers, and as for their legal counsel I'll bet they are two more losers. These people are typical of todays society. Gee it's not my fault I'm such an idiot, the system made me do this. Any judge worth half a grain of salt will take one look at this case and send the four of them and their questionable legal counsel packing.


beve
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I'm sorry for these people. However people need to take responsibility for their own actions,and get help. No one can cure an addict, only the addicted person can do that. Addiction is not an illness, it's a choice and we all make choises, be responsible for your own actions and stop looking for someone else to fix you. can't be done.


Brandon
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Are you kidding me? This is the most ridiculous claim I have ever heard. On second thought...I think I may take my paycheck to the casino tonight. Perhaps if I can lose it all and double my money in court.


Seamusmac
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As a former security guard at Edgewater Casino I did witness on many occasions people on the self exclusion list being removed from the premises. You have to remember these people are addicts and will use any means they can to get in and gamble. I have seen men dress up as women, women dress as men, wigs, fake mustaches etc. to try and not get caught. So the program does work, it is just a hard thing to enforce this VOLUNTARY program when the people go out of their way to not get caught.Will a lawsuit help if they win, no. They will probably gamble any winnings away. If they are serious about their problem then they should be using other means along with the self exclusion program to kick their addiction.


Shanda
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These adults should be ashamed. The program is voluntary...that means that you are signing up with the mindset that you will let the casino know when you arrive that you are on the program. There are MILLIONS of people that gamble, and the guy at the front door letting you in doesn't have ESP or a face scanner that would let him know that you've signed up. You want to kick your addiction, do it like every other addict. Get therapy, go cold turkey, and stop ruining your life, and the lives of those around you.


Jim
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ridiculous waste of tax dollars! this four are a joke, and greedy lawyers behind them!


Martin
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Two words, Personal Responsibility.Not the problem of BCLC if these folks can't stop their compulsions to gamble.Had the BCLC stopped them from entering the casinos, they would have just found other outlets for their gambling.


Sheila Bbbb
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What's next...overweight people vs bakeries....shopaholics suing malls...parents suing dentists for their kids cavities...give me a break!!!


Mary Kay
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The government offers a program to help those that need help for an addiction yet they do not hold up their end of the deal. Seems they would rather see addicts be be in financial ruins or lose their families etc. Yes it is the gamblers responsibility but it is also BCLC's and the Casino's responsibility - they are the ones that offer the program. Nightclubs are now asking for ID before letting people in their establishment ~ why can't casino's. You show your ID, your name comes up, they don't let you in - it's that simple. We can trace where and when a cow with MAD COW Disease was born but we can't stop people who need help from going into a casino> What is wrong with this picture?


mama
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exactly seamusmac! I used to be a dealer and we were told of certain people to notify the floor of and I witnessed people in "disguise" too. These people know what their doing and for anyone to point blame at the BCLC for not doing anything is ridiculous. That would be like asking all BC liquor stores to not let alcoholics in the stores. Sure, an employee could recognize a regular right away, but what about someone who's gone out of their way to go to another town AND put on a fake mustache and wig?


peter
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Can I sue all the losers and their lawyers for the taxpayer funded money they are squandering? Jerks like them have probably added an extra 5 years to my working life. Blame yourselves, it IS YOUR FAULT.


DAISY
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The casinos are not to blame. These people are breaking their own promise. Whatever happened to them being fined by BCLC for breaking the self exclusion policy? Perhaps they should start enforcing that.


Former gambler
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CTV should do a segment on how the "Voluntary Self-Exclusion" (definitive phrase) program does work. It has been very successful for me. I utilized the counseling offered and proud to say I have not gambled for 1 year and 2 months. It is all about personal responsibility and accountability. However, I know all to well; when in active addiction, I blamed EVERYONE for my problems.


Hana
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This is a joke. Everyone knows they are not going to get a penny with their law suit. I guess it’s always easier to blame others for our own mistakes.To think of it I would not be surprised if the people that are against the new proposed casino at BC place have started this to get public opinion on their side. I mean, its perfect timing.


Barry. polomolok
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Scammers everywhere. Its their own fault.Don't blame the Government or the Casino's. They are there to make money. These people should be taken to task and sued for a frivolous lawsuit and action taken against them to recover their dept. We need to revert to debtors prisons, then these types would smarten up.


MIKE
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WHAT ONE CHOOSES TO DO WITH THEIR LIVES IS UP TO THEM! HOW IS IT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SOCIETY TO BABYSIT THOSE THAT CANNOT MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES.FREE WILL! IT IS NO ONES FAULT EXCEPT YOUR OWN TO MAKE THE WRONG DECISIONS. JUST BECAUSE THE CHOICES ARE THERE, DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE FORCED TO MAKE THEM. GRAB A FKNG BRAIN YOU IDIOTS! MIKE .KELOWNA


MIKE
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WHAT ONE CHOOSES TO DO WITH THEIR LIVES IS UP TO THEM! HOW IS IT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SOCIETY TO BABYSIT THOSE THAT CANNOT MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES.FREE WILL! IT IS NO ONES FAULT EXCEPT YOUR OWN TO MAKE THE WRONG DECISIONS. JUST BECAUSE THE CHOICES ARE THERE, DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE FORCED TO MAKE THEM. GRAB A BRAIN YOU IDIOTS! MIKE .KELOWNA


Jim-Surrey
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SO what is next the alcoholics of the world sue the LDB because they sold them booze???This is NUTS, it is their own fault they can't stay away from gambling NO one else


Fred A
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Self Exclusion is what it says, we are the ones responsible for not going to the casino. I have signed up for this program, they do provide all the information, and they do make sure you understand that we are the ones responsible for making sure we do not come into the casino's, or bingo or gaming centres. If anything, as per our agreements, should we be caught in the casino, we are fined up to $50,000; maybe these four people should be fined and made as an example to those who go into the casino and play and are excluded.


TwoDogGuy
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And so, with the help of their lawyers, these individuals "roll the dice" yet another time, gambling that they will win in court.


Jeanne
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Like anyone who has a drug problem they brought this on themselves why should a company be held accountable for the actions of adults, pretty soon stores are going to be sued by cronnick shoppers. Grow up people and be accountable for yourselves, you are not a child who needs to be looked after


D Snider
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Some gamblers are worst than others and that can't be an excused for their problems, when they won't stop or get more help than just signing a form. They must be sick in the head thinking that they are going to take care of your illness when a signing a form is all that they will do. I beleive that our goverment and the Lotto Corp. across this country are being very lax on the real problems they are causing. We all have this thought that maybe I could win big and retire early in life. And as long I can remember this gambling movement was indorst by the federal goverment back in 1977? Funds that were collected from these establisments were to be helping out in areas in Canada where federal and provincial goverments had no monies for. WHERE ARE THE MONIES GOING NOW???? To build and support more goverment and some privite gambling casinos? Spend Millions of dollars on advertising, inwhich I know they don't have to advertise. I still have some hope that I could win something someday, maybe? I think they should pay these people the $400,000. And then start really helping and giving back to the people instead of thinking growing this Demon of distruction thinking it is O.K. Accountablity is what they have to be, because bartenders are responsible for drunk'n customers!


Mike
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Welcome to our 'wonderful" progressive society... Where no one is ever responsible for themselves..... peolpe are now expecting to be taken care of from cradle to crave, no matter what kind of stupid things they do.....


marlene
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Well if the Courts decide that the Casinos are at fault, and in this day and age it is very possible, perhaps the addict should be branded with a big L on their right cheek. They would be quickly recognized as a big "loser" and refused entry. Problem solved and I hope the branding hurts like hell!


Doug ^^^ BC
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It's refreshing to see so many peope posting on this actually getting it right,and,for the most part, agreeing with each other. "Personal Responsibility" is exactly what is missing,not only here,but in many areas of life in Canada.My dad once told me "I am doing you a big favour by not doing this for you.You will grow up by learning to do it yourself". I think most of us realize SOME people need SOME help,SOME of the time.But the problem with the great "nanny state",is that people now rely not only on some help,but on someone actually taking care of all of their mistakes and recklessness.When they screw up,they assume that someone else is to blame. All this starts at home,and is expanded in our school systems.Whether you do the work or you don't do the work,you PASS to the next level. Sorry "stefano" I know you care about these people.But sometimes it's better to slap a hand than hold it.And it is blatantly unfair to punish an entire population because a very small minority can't deal with the reality of living in the modern world. I can't speak to all of Canada,but I would say that if schools actually taught students about life in the real world,we would have fewer problems like this.Students should have "life skills" when they graduate.How to sat healthy.How to balance a family budget.The cost of the life style you want to live.How to compete.AND,some sense of personal responsibility.Real life is not all about the ideology and philososphy that is currently being taught in BC.The BCTF is essentially an orgainzation that promotes political activism and social engineering.Teaching life skills is not in the curriculum.


Who Said That
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adding to my earlier comment, maybe we should address these gambling addicts with a more of a 'harm reduction' model. Maybe a 'Safe Casino Site', where they can lose no more than $10 at a time, and are monitored by all times by a non-profit outreach worker.....lol, that was fun.....


David Powell
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Most readers seem to have missed the point. The issue here is not whether problem gamblers are responsible for their addiction. It is that the Province of BC is addicted to the revenues generated by casinos. And by building more and more casinos they place more and more people at risk. And when they do become addicted they can expect little help from LCBC as their so-called "exclusion programme" is a farce.


ryan
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are people actually crying about having nos self control? can i sue pubs too for not stopping me from going in and spending money...(id sure love those $$$ back) maybe those extra few trips to cactus club too (i wouldnt mind those back too) and whoever doesnt want a casino downtown ...DONT GO IN! i want one and im GOING IN! as a poker player , what a new casino downtown is going to do to poker here i beleive is going to be big....to all the whiners....just imagine what you could do in life with all that extra time if you spent it positively..... and if anyone tries to compensate these babies...well... get ready because the downtown eastside is next on the lawsuit list....