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By: Darcy Wintonyk, ctvbc.ca
Date: Friday Sep. 3, 2010 11:51 AM PT
While B.C.'s Finance Minister still insists the harmonized sales tax wasn't on his radar before the 2009 election -- despite documents showing he was well informed by his bureaucrats -- a former provincial finance minister said he was briefed on the issue while he was in office almost 10 years ago.
Paul Ramsey, who was the NDP finance minister until his defeat in 2001, said his staff was giving him similar advice about the HST a decade ago and it's highly unlikely that Colin Hansen wouldn't have discussed the tax with his bureaucrats, especially considering Ontario's plans to introduce the tax.
"It was an active item on my radar at the time and I think it would be active on all finance ministers for the last decade. What would have heightened it for Mr. Hansen is that the federal government had just inked a deal in Ontario," Ramsey told CTV News from Victoria Thursday.
Ramsey said he's surprised that the BC Liberals so vehemently denied the HST was on their radar before the election and then sprung it on the public so quickly after they were voted back into office.
"The scandal is trying to explain how you could not be dealing with an issue before election and then do it shortly thereafter. And that's where the big political hurt has come," he said.
Ramsey said people will object to the optics of the situation much more than the actual policy.
"The pros and cons of doing an HST haven't changed in a decade. The problem is appearing to do a political about face and doing it without consultation," he said.
Ramsey said while he talked about the issue when he was minister, he didn't bring it to cabinet because he sensed it would be unpopular.
"They were saying this is a tax that will probably hurt business in the short term, it's a huge shift in taxes from business to individuals and it really curtails B.C.'s power to enforce its own tax regime. And that's exactly the advice Mr. Hansen is getting now."
Political fallout
There have been multiple calls for Hansen to step down since briefing notes, emails and correspondence between the federal and provincial finance departments were released to media through a freedom of information request Wednesday.
One of the documents is an 11-page briefing note given directly to Hansen which outlines the pros and cons of harmonizing the tax. The cover page reads: "There is a strong possibility that the British Columbia government will be asked in the next couple of weeks about its position of harmonization."
Hansen said he did read the report, but said he didn't ask for the report and his staff did the research on their own in case he was asked about Ontario's HST plans by media.
"I would have read that to the extent necessary to make sure I felt comfortable if I ever got the media request," he told CTV News Thursday.
"We had absolutely no plans on the HST until after the election."
Among those who called on Hansen to step down Thursday was Jordon Bateman, the president of Housing and Social Development Minister Rich Coleman's Fort Langley-Aldergrove riding association.
He quickly retracted his comments and issued an apology after speaking to the finance minister, who he described as "gracious."
"We spoke about the documents and I feel you should all know that Minister Hansen gave me his direct assurance that the HST was not being planned prior to the election," Bateman wrote on his blog.
Colin Hansen told CTV News that even though his top bureaucrats were discussing the HST and preparing documents and cost-benefit analyses as early as January 2009, he was not made aware of it.
"At no time did this government ask finance officials to proactively do this work," Hansen said.
"This info gathering, up until the end of May was at their initiative and was not something we asked them to undertake."
With files from CTV British Columbia's Jon Woodward
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SO the next question is if they are under Hansen' s control why did he not stop the exercise and put them onto something that would be good for BC taxpayers. Are they not under his watch? Is he not their boss?Or are we just paying him a high salary so he can gaze out his office window into space. Actually he doesn't need to gaze that far as the space is between his ears!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!There are so many lies they can't come up with excuses that make sense! |
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the liberals are so done in BC....it's nice to have all the new roads though. You know, the ones I've been paying for all my 50 years without getting any improvements before now. So this generation has paid for the lame past 40 years non-improvements....and now also has to pay for the next 50 years improvements to boot. I'm so done with living in BC and all the massively increasing costs. This government must go save our souls. |
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Of course the NWO Globalists, Hansen and Campbell knew... they just thought the peasants were so stupid to never find out the truth. |
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Maybe it's time to layoff anyone in the Finance Ministry that are involved with this HST before the election since they are doing something on their own without even their boss knowing it. Waste of taxpayers' money and resource. |
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It is quite clear that someone in the Liberal party got to Mr. Bateman and forced him to retract. This smelling like a cover up far worse than Fantasy Gardens,, or the like. |
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Colin Hansen is simply not believable and is continued arrogance is just astounding. Hansen must be removed, indeed possibly charged for lying to the Legislature and the people. |
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The BC gov't is a role model for the new world order and global carbon tax system. Just google search "gordon campbell bilderberg" to start your investigation. |
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I'm in agreement with those who say Hansen and Campbell are done like dinner. However,I would you to use a lot of caution when listeniong to Paul Ramsey.He may have the inside scoop on who knew what and when they knew it.But seriously folks,this man weas the worst finance minister ever,and the two times his party ruled BC,they decimated the entire economy. Since Willy Vanderzalm destryed both the taxpayer and the Socreds,and Paul Ramesy slayed the economy of BC in his own way,all I get from this article is proof that having a common enemy doesn't make either Ramsey or Vanderzalm a wise choice for an ally.Neither one of them was very honest,and both were fiscal morons.Friends like that,I don't need. In fact,as much as it would hurt,I'd vote for Campbell before I'd vote for either of these washed up clowns.All they're trying to do is make themselves relevant again because they can't bear the fact that they went down in flames as a result of their own treachery and deceit.If you let them fool you again,shame on you. |
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I have a simple question for the Premier and Mr Hanson...IF you really believe the HST is so good for BC....WHY did you not tell the voters BEFORE the Election....???? |
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The report that says the HST would be bad for the economy for several years is all I need to know. WHY would any government bring in such a tax knowing it would be bad for the economy, and particularly during a recession? Obviously not in the best interests of the taxpayers and the province. It smells to me like kickbacks from big business. |
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Hansen continues to amuse me. He's beginning to sound desperate. Guess Gordo is still on vacation and scared to come back to this mess? |
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So our Finance Minister does not meet regularly with members of his team? Mr. Hansen has no idea what is being discussed in his ministry? Asking for his resignation over the HST smoke screen should be secondary to his apparent failure to do his job. Does this apparent lack of interest and knowledge mean he is only after the pension benefits? The Liberals have become examples of the political machine at its worst. |
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