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Interesting that on their blog they have comments turned off, and in their 'about us' section their coward faces are covered. Get out of my city and country, you vandalizing losers. You don't speak for the people, especially not me.

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Resistance writers say anarchist protest successful

By: Darcy Wintonyk, ctvbc.ca

Date: Monday Feb. 15, 2010 7:43 AM PT

A violent protest that saw seven people arrested and windows smashed at downtown Vancouver businesses was a success, according to a group of journalists from California covering resistance against the 2010 Olympic Winter Games.

More than 100 protesters clad in all-black took over an otherwise peaceful protest Saturday morning, tying up traffic for several hours, clashing with police and throwing newspaper boxes into the road. Another 200 protesters remained peaceful, police said later.

The San Francisco-area blog, entitled "Beneath the snow: covering the resistance to the 2010 Olympics," said the group of masked protesters, members of the "black bloc contingent," have been a strong force of resistance since the Games opened in Vancouver Friday.

"What's especially striking here… is how disciplined and strategically -- even politically -- effective they've been, and how much respect they've earned through their organizing efforts leading up to this point as well as their actions on the streets," the author, who remained anonymous, wrote. The blog is produced by three writers involved in the social justice movement.

Vancouver Police Chief Jim Chu described the troublemakers in the mostly peaceful demonstration as a loosely organized group of "thugs" from central Canada and across the United States that promotes anarchy.

Chu said the group travels to any event that attracts media coverage and "promotes anarchy wherever they go." Many of those involved wore masks and hid among the legitimate protesters, he added.

Mission accomplished?

While riot police blocked the protesters access to the Lions Gate Bridge, what is believed to be the anarchist's final destination to block access to the Sea-to-Sky Highway, the author said the contingent functioned "very well."

"They were good about focusing on the mission: to put obstacles in the streets so as to slow or stop traffic, and thus hopefully the Olympic spectacle. And equally good at focusing on not needlessly antagonizing the police -- a distraction to this mission -- but doing so when needed."

The protesters were often met with outcries from members of the public as they passed. Some told the group to "grow up" as they yelled at police and pushed newspaper boxes into downtown intersections.

The blog author admitted success of black blocs is often hard to gauge in large-scale protests, but quoted a Vancouver anarchist to describe how the group felt they were having a positive effect.

"It's upsetting when you're ‘standing up for people's rights who don't know that you're standing up for their rights and they are against you [when] little do they know, a few years down the road, they're going to be in our shoes themselves.'"

Remaining vigilant

In a statement issued Saturday, B.C. Solicitor General Kash Heed praised the quick action of police to protect the public while the world visits Vancouver.

He promised police forces would remain vigilant to ensure everyone enjoys a safe and successful 2010 Games.

"One of the hallmarks of any civil society is respect for the law. The very laws that protect our right to free speech and the right for peaceful demonstration are at risk when a small group in society think they are above the law," Heed said.

"The [police] will continue to ensure that athletes and the public are safe from unlawful activity and able to enjoy the Games without concern."

Believed to have originated in Germany in the 1970s, the black bloc movement first gained international notoriety during the anti-WTO demonstrations in Seattle in 1999, when a masked group damaged retail stores for GAP, Starbucks and Old Navy in an anti-globalization protest.

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Matt
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CTV you should be ashamed for reporting on this, how could you promote these types of people website, any of these people that are arrested should be held till the games are over and the americans amongst them should be deported and banned future entry to canada.


Deborah
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Interesting that on their blog they have comments turned off, and in their 'about us' section their coward faces are covered. Get out of my city and country, you vandalizing losers. You don't speak for the people, especially not me.


Doug # BC
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"Standing up for peoples rights when they don't know you're standing up for their rights."

How arrogant to you have to be to write something as stupid as that? To think the masses of people who support these games are incapable of thinking for themselves,so bringing in a bunch of thugs so ashamed of what they do that they have to cover their faces.Trust me,my friends,black booted thugs from central Ontario or the United States do not give a fat rats behind about anyone's rights.If they did,they would be respecting the rights of people who suoort the games just as much as they claim to be asking for rights for those who oppose the games.It is called "equailty" If you want to get respect,you have to be prepared to give respect. These purveyors of misery are no better than the Jimmy Jones's or the Adolph Hitlers of the world.Brainwashing ignorant fools into following them on a futile mission,by claiming only they can preserve their twisted notion of what is right for everyone.Except,of course,them. It's sad that Vancouver has been at odds with local police for some time.They have essentially handcuffed them,because they now fear any action they take to stop these morons will be somehow portrayed as to violent.Given all that,I suggest they either lock them up as long as possible,and deport the foreigners who know nothing about Canada. Failing that,just round them up,take off their masks,and put them on display somewhere in Vancouver.If the law can't touch them,I am sure there are many members of the law abiding public who would love a shot at them.The police don't have to lift a finger.Just go home and leave the rest to the public.


Melanie Terrace,BC
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Gee.Now some idiot in San Francisco thinks Canadians are so stupid we need a bunch of American criminals to show us how to defend our rights?? NOT. Or,to put it another way,YANKEE GO HOME. If this is the best you can do,it's little wonder so many people hate America.They always assume it has to be their way,or no way at all.What they fail to recognize,is that Canadians earn their rights through negotiation and compromise.Bu doing it that way,those rights have a better chance of lasting a long time.By using violence and intimidation,the "rights" earned only last until someone wth more guns or bigger bombs comes along,and the cycle of destruction and violence resumes all over again. They remind me of a line in an old song by the "Who". You know the one,"meet the new boss,same as the old boss".Rights are to be distributed in a way that suits them,and them alone.The rest of the taxpayers have no rights at all. If the people in Vancouver don't get it,let me help a bit.These people ARE NOT about rights and justice.They are the Taliban and the Tamil Tigers of your city.They are common criminals hiding behind the notion that they are fighting for a just cause.Get rid of them,or prepare for a life of slavery and intimidation. I know you "city folks" are a bit crazy.But I also know you can do better than these black booted thugs.Defend your city,or leave a legacy of nothing for your children.


Casey
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It amazes me how you (and all the other media) report soo much about this petty "anarchist" protest of what 100-200 people. Yet a group with an actual message organizes a "flash mob" on Robson street of almost 2,000 strangers "dancing in the streets"....which entertained, made people laugh, and showed the world what an actual positive political statement can bring. Search youtube or google for vancouver 2010 flash mob and you will find plenty of videos of an actual news worthy, positive event. It was organized by imagine1day.org (an organization I had never heard of, but have now checked out)....now that is a positive way to make a statement!! Makes those un-organized protesters (with no clear message), look like nothing....which is what they were.


rose
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They don't speak for me !


ray
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Why does one have to cover their faces to protest. If they truly believed in something why not show all your colors and not cover up your faces. I truly believe these people are either hired or just get off on creating fear in people. Senseless .why not show how maybe you could help a homeless family in the name of your group and report on that. would be a lot better way of getting your point across to the masses.


Ted
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what a bunch of idiots...you really are proud of your stupidity arn't you. Get a life, it's aholes like you that make peaceful gatherings a mess, you need to be flogged in public!


Thumper
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As soon as you see these guys ARREST THEM !!! These are NOT Canadians...

ian gregson
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"You might not agree with the agenda of those protesting the Olympics, but you absolutely must agree with their right to dissent openly and publicly without the fear of authoritative repression. Because if you don’t, then you both don’t believe in the importance of a free society, nor wish to live in one. And if you don’t wish to live in one, then what is it that you do want?" -Matt Good


Easton13
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Funny how these BRAVE protesters have to cover up their faces and break the law. And the goofs from the States writing the articles wont publish their names with the articles. Boy aren't Americans BRAVE. LOSERS.


Alex
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So... the anarchists were successful? I suppose they were. They proved that Ghandi's method was the only legitimate form of protest. The Anarchist movement is an invention of Fascists to lead the world towards totalitarian rule. The participants don't realize they are puppets used by evil forces with an agenda which will bring nothing but death and hatred. Love, honour and respect are the only things which have or will change the world. Rampant violence creates & keeps military regimes in power. If this group of mobsters is truly committed to their cause perhaps they could attempt to spread their message in Tehran. Or are they only tough boys and girls when the concept of open fire by security is not an option?


Linda in Vancouver
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They must have a very unique way of defining what "success" means.To a casual observer like myself,it looks like violence and destruction alone are all that it takes for these people to claim success. To me,being a simple minded person,I would define success as having delivered a clear message,and actually having made a positive difference in the lives of the people I am claiming to care about.It would also require that I had convinced a lot of other people to join hands,and support more help for the poor.In this case,I wonder why they aren't concerned that this violence will harden the hearts of law abiding taxpayers,and that those hardened hearts will have less sympthy for the very people that need help. And,Melanie is right.I am from small town BC also.I am here only because this is where I can earn a living.But the "city folks" need someone else to do everything for them.In this case they need the cops,who they all seem to hate,to take care of everything.In small town BC,there are very few gangs,and little of this.Why??? Because we the people,alll know each other,and we take care of our own.When kids start froming gangs, or getting out of hand,we ask the RCMP for help, for sure.But if their hands are tied,we take care of the evil doers ourselves.It rarely comes to violence,but shaming the lawbreakers helps a lot in a town where everyone knows who everyone else is.If that doesn't help,people who wreak havoc in the community can expect a very intimidating talk for a lot of people who like their peace. It's amazing how thousands of "city folks" will stand and watch a few criminals tear down their city,and just think "someone else" should take care of it.


Kolyn Radbourne
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If these people have a point to make why are they always hiding. Behind masks and annomous blogs.


Diane Eyre
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What cowards and hypocrites these people are! They cover their faces because they don't want to be caught and charged for breaking the law. They also don't know what they're doing, as, by definition, anarchists are against any kind of order - yet they have organized themselves just so they can create havoc which is what they like to do. I think we should throw them all in jail for the duration of the Olympics.


Sherry
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The people who continue to organize these disruptive demonstrations are behaving like self-righteous bullies. No one has taken away their right to peaceful protest but when one of the organizers stands side by side with someone who justifies destruction of private property she gives the appearance of condoning it. Stop putting all the blame on the police for not letting you behave in any manner you choose. Any message you are attempting to delivery will not be heard from this kind of behaviour.


Daniel Vancouver BC
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To all protesters I say:Actually No One Owes You CrapWhy should I pay for your housing, or any other bogus demands you make.I think we all should head downtown for the next protest and "Help the police Take Out the Trash"


Kinsey
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Its funny the word 'success' was used to these protests. I saw the news and some thug smashing a window through a store, sure didn't deter me since I went downtown that evening, didn't even realize I went to that very store to buy some memorabilia and so did so many others. I even went to by something off a shelf right next to that broken window and a crew was fixing it .... life goes on.


Kat
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Whoa just because those San Fran weirdos wrote it up doesn't mean their Americans. I'm sure you have enough of your own weirdos you don't need to blame this on us.


jon
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it's CTV's duty to report about this. it's news. it happens to be a different opinion than most people's, but it happened, and it's a valid opinion that should not be quashed because it doesn't happen to fit into someone's narrow worldview. protests are part of democracy and the expression of free speech. Don't lump the violent ones in with the majority that peacefully demonstrate. Most people out there are demonstrating peacefully and don't bother policing the tactics of others. they just happen to be on the same street as everyone else. The crowd of people holding signs should not be marginalised, nor should they be ignored by the media. they have just as much right to have their say as anybody else.


Derek
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What a bunch of pathetic, despicable cowards. The belief that they are actually speaking for anyone who has an iota of intelligence is laughable. The police should post names, photos, home addresses and if they even have jobs, their work place addresses so we can properly thank them for their contribution to society.


Niccolo
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Do you people really consider a few broken windows and knocked over news stands to be displays of violence? You have a warped sense of reality. Not everybody has the luxury of being stopped in traffic as their biggest inconvenience of the day. It must really suck having to deal with a couple of people trying to participate in nonviolent direct action. Maybe if people would quit marginalizing them, then they wouldn't feel that they need to resort to such spectacular displays of civil disobedience in order to quit the exploitation and injustices in the world that are brought on by your spoiled conveniences.


mike
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Yes it was very succesful in alienating me and many others from your causes, you did very well in lowering your support, well done go have a pint!!!


Doug # BC
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I shouldn't post more than once,but I'm so angry with these morons I could just spit. In case "ian gregson" doesn't get it,in Canada we use ballots to express ourselves.In the USA they use bullets.THAT is what sets us apart.Your post is pointy headed philosophy,and self serving dribble.NO ONE is arguing about the right to peaceful protest.NO ONE.Get your head out of your philosophy book,and look at real life for real people.Violence i NOT an acceptable form of protest.It is,in fact,the very oppression you think you speak against. In short,your post makes you look like an idiot.


Don
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One can't help but notice that all of the trouble making protesters are anonymous masked men, and their supporting scribes are also anonymous. Clearly, they are afraid to be identified. Since the repercussions of their actions could include a travel ban and no admission to the US/Canada they would be left with sitting around their hometowns and recognized for the losers they are. Here is my suggestion for the police; the next time the black blockers show up in public, arrest them all. Surround them and pick up every last one. It can be done if the will is there. Their arrest should be followed with immediate deportation to wherever they came from. I am sure it is an offence to wear a disguise while committing other crimes. There is your probable cause. Go get them and get them out of our country.


ROCK
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To the ORN and your fellow gangsters:What part of peaceful (as in “peaceful protest”) do you not understand?Your behavior in downtown Vancouver on Saturday, Feb 13th, was terrifying for innocent citizens and tourists alike. It accomplished nothing re the Olympics. I have plenty of criticisms of VANOC and the IOC myself, but rioting during the Olympics accomplishes nothing, and turns sympathizers away from your cause.And by the way, you keep spouting “No Olympics on stolen native land” and battling corporations. So which part of the NON-First Nations land do you walk on and live on? And where do you think your food, water, clothing, electricity, tents, buses and medical help come from? Do you magically conjure them out of thin air, or are they grown, manufactured, and delivered to you by people toiling in businesses, universities, governments, etc. Please start using your brains for once, and think about these things.


Den
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When this group of black clad anarchists join a group of protesters and this group accepts them then they are guilty by association. Why does the legitamate group allow them to march with them. It tells me that they agree with what they are doing or would separate themselves. By culling the herd the police could have an easier time taking care of those guilty of destruction. Now the leader of the protesters one Allisa Worthington Thorn say its ok to cause damage as long as people don't get hurt. Those people with busted windows in their cars are hurt.. Allisa should be arrested as the leader of a group who is associated with those damaging property which according to law is illegal.


Linda in Vancouver
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I agree with "kat",in that Canada has enough wierdos of it's own.HOWEVER,of the people arrested so far,the ONLY one charged with possession of a prohibited weapon,was,you guessed it,from the USA. Not only do SOME people in America think it's OK to meddle in the afairs of Canada,now they seem to think it works better if they bring guns.I think there c ould be something there to suggest American thinking follows American foreign policy."Give us peace,or prepare to be shot." You're right "kat". It's not tirght to tar all Americans with the same brush.Just like it's not right to generalize about any unidentifiable group.And I hope we don't end up doing that.I accept ypour point about the blog,but I think it will prove to be wrong.But bringing guns? Surely even you can see that steps over the line no matter what nationality you are.If it were a Canadian doing this in the USA,I would be both ashamed,and embarrassed enough to hope your courts locked this idiot up for a very long time.No nation on earth disapproves of foreigners involving themselves in domestic affairs,than does America.Given that,the only way to avoid being a hypocrit is to demand that Americans show the same respect for other nations.As I do when I visit your country.It is simply not my place to tell the USA how to deal with it;'s affairs.There are enough intelligent Americans to do that without my help.The same needs to apply to Americans visiting Canada. You don't have to like us.Most of us would like to be friends,but don't really care if you like us or not.Especially if you can't respect our right to make our own choices,in our own form of democracy.It's not perfect,but it is doing at least as well as the American version.


Christine
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Are they "speaking up" for the little kids that had their dreams crushed by not being able to see the Olympic flame pass by?


RK in Coquitlam
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They think the protest was successful???These people are delusional, among many other negative things.And I completely agree with those who say CTV should very much tone down the reporting on these low lifes. If the media ignores them they will go away. The "Black Bloc" are not a legitimate social movement, but are a bunch of thugs.


Kevin
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Let me see, destruction of property, violence, threatening public safety, attacking pedestrians, wearing uniforms and masks. They sound like terrorists to me. Don't we have laws on the books to address security from terrorists? Arrest them. Ship them to Another province were the judiciary doesn't have its head up its . . . in the dark. And them try them.


gary
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The police do something they are jerks they do nothing they are jerks. This anarchist protest is the exact reason I didn't buy any olympic clothing and wear it when i was in vancouver summer 2009 and the exact reason why I decided to watch the Games on television. Childish attention seeking radical nuts who will do as they please. Looks like I made the right decision.


Pat
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Are most of you that naive to believe that the majority of these people are "Imported Thugs"....Do you have any clue at all what's going on in BC ? .....How far in the hole these Games are putting our Province, at the same time killing jobs, and cutting back on everything else ? ... You don't do you ? ....Brainwashed Thugs


bc grrl
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"Maybe if people would quit marginalizing them, then they wouldn't feel that they need to resort to such spectacular displays of civil disobedience in order to quit the exploitation and injustices in the world that are brought on by your spoiled conveniences." written by niccolo, on a spoiled convenience of a computer, maybe a blackberry so he can be mobile? grow up! haven't you stupid children learned by now that by being thugs you are enforcing the mentality that we NEED more security! we NEED that waste of riot gear police? we NEED to rely on them to save us from you! i think not, by being brats YOU bring the police to our doors, YOU protect us from nothing, YOU cause the problems! black blockers go home, leave the protesting to those who have been here in bc and know why we are protesting and know why we are marching in the streets. we have the right to protest, we do better with out your childish endeavors.


City Joe
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Linda in VancouverDon't tell the city folks how to take care of their city. Vancouver is not like your little hick town.


Linda in Vancouver
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I loooooove "Dereks" idea.Masks off,names and addresses in every paper in the nation. That's how it was done years ago,and that's how it should be today.In small town BC the shame usually had them out of town in very short order.It's just to easy to take the cowardly way out by hiding behind masks,and in the shadows of the city. At least one of the American brought a gun.Is that your twisted version of "no violent direct action"? Perhaps people convicted of this kind of deliberate destruction should,as part of their sentence,be required to pay for the damage.And,no more government cheques until they do so. For these actions,there is no defense.These people want to relieve people of what they call oppression,by simply relieving the duly elected government of the role,and becoming the oppressors themselves.That is exactly what happens when law abiding people are afraid to attend public events,or even use the streets in their own city.Now,the rioters become the oppressors.They just wear masks and hide their identities..Offering up excuses for them just make you look like the fool.


Garrett
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Just adding extra costs to the city which is already in deep red due to the games....


Vancouverite
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To see a video of the protesters views, watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZr2V8v-KyY&feature=player_embedded


scox1313
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you call this journalism? the anchors have olympic logos on their clothes, they appear in ads for the games, ctv is a sponsor. this is so biased i would call it propaganda.


Tremaine
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@Alex who said "So... the anarchists were successful? I suppose they were. They proved that Ghandi's method was the only legitimate form of protest. The Anarchist movement is an invention of Fascists to lead the world towards totalitarian rule."What kind of uninformed illiterate confuses anarchists with fascists? You want to see how fascists feel about anarchists, go check out stormfront for a sampling.Or just google for anarchism. No shortage of sources - Spanish Revolution would be a good starting point, since it's a clear example of anarchists fighting fascism alongside communists (who ultimately betrayed them)


Jeff, Surrey BC
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These people that attempted to disrupt the games and cause havoc and fear are no better than the stazi of East Germany when the country was divided or the nazi SS in germany.


Kay
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What a way to get your "message" across..a) we don't even know what that "message" is because you are all acting like little babies throwing temper tantrums. b) all you guys seem to want to do with your little protest is act like a bunch of morons and find an excuse to break and kick things.I suggest buying a punching bag to work out your ISSUES. It's better than landing your a** in jail.


Niccolo
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bc grrl, how much coverage did your protest get, just curious? People shouldn't settle for the peanuts that the wealthy exploiters let you all play with. You can protest all you want, but if nobody's listening, what's the point? Also, I have never even been to Vancouver, so please do not associate myself with the black bloc there. People use the stigma of Anarchism to do what they want, when the philosophy is actually quite different. The people bashing in these windows were either undercover agents or five individuals who have no idea what being an Anarchist means. Do you really think that the $1B security budget is to stop a couple of people from breaking windows? No, it's to intimidate you protesters into actually doing anything meaningful with your movement. How close did you even get to anybody who is actually attending the Olympics at your demonstration? Were you even allowed to demonstrate anywhere near the games?